Billie vs. David

[rabid1st]

Come on...? Let's not go there.

My recent comment about David annoying me with his comments about the Doctor's mindset in Runaway Bride...prompted someone else to say that Billie had also made annoying comments. Which I'm sure she has. And if one of her annoying comments inspires ranting in you...rant on. I will try to defend Billie...as someone else tried to defend David (and indeed...as I myself defended David) for his remark. I will look for the good behind what she/he said. For example: Billie is feeling pain, regret and loss over her decision to leave Dr. Who...and she knows her fans are feeling the same thing. So, she's going to express those feelings and be quoted.

But I would rather not let one annoying comment escalate into who is more annoying...person A or person B. Especially, when I adore BOTH A & B and they appear to be quite fond of each other. Overall, I think Billie and David are handling this transition amazingly well. Both of them come across as lovely people who care very much about what they do and continue to wish one another the best. But they are at the center of a media blitz and the media has a vested interest in stirring up trouble to sell papers or magazines. As fans, we should remember that. Everyone is going to be quoted for the most impact.

This loss of Rose and moving on to Martha isn't about Billie vs. David. Both of them should enjoy the most success they can have as people and actors. I want Billie to be a shining star. I want to watch Dr. Who for David's sake...and Russell's. I want to adore Freema as Martha Jones.

I want a Rose/Ten reunion movie...not just for me but because I think Dr. Who deserves a really good film after all these years and NOW they have something people will pay to see. The time has never been riper to bring a great Dr. Who film into being than right now. Young, appealing stars. A reunion fans will talk about online to start buzz. Spiderman and the X-men leading the way. Dr. Who is the next logical step...and David and Billie are the logical stars.

Every comment I make is designed to get my reasons for watching/not watching OUT THERE...so the people in charge can make informed decisions. Not that I think anyone is remotely interested in my little live journal...but the PTB are aware of the fanbase...and I want to represent. I'm sure everyone who is THRILLED with some new comment will also be expressing themselves (as I just did about Russell's comment...simply because it gave me a reason to go on watching a show I've always enjoyed). My Christmas wish for the New Who fandom is we all represent the best in fandom and that none of us express ourselves via fandom wars.

Rae

Comments

Re: Oh, and hi, Nos!

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I read.... err... some of it? As usual in fic I gave up once the One True Eternal Love kicked in, but I did read a few chapters I'm sure. And I must have looked in now and then to see where it's going, as often happens with long multi-chaptered things where you wonder how it played out. Also people kept sending me bits and I am incapable of not looking at things when prompted to do so by others.

Though really there's nothin' wrong with playing with the AU concept of, y'know, a flowery cock on an asexual Doctor. I've toyed meself with doing Smut-Comedy where Rose is shocked and appalled by the Doctor's, umm, "Doctorhood." Besides, I wrote Ten/Rose babyfic AND a story where Ten'n'Romana kill celebrities, so my literary high-ground in this fandom is... err... some way below sea-level. Possibly near the bottom of an oceanic trench.

I am schmoopy there's no denying it

[(Anonymous)]

I play to my fanbase and dare not go schmoopless even if my fellow librarians are appalled by my relentless candor and lack of literary ambition. As to the Doctorhood, I find it being ordinary...ordinary...and I enjoyed playing with the idea of it being a tentacled thing when Rose first encounters it...as that seems to be the other way to go in SciFi.

Since you are not a fan of eternal one true loves...you will not wish to be counted among my readers even assuming you could tolerate my excessively purple prose...however, that, too, is fine by me and perfectly understandable. I prefer Robert Parker, myself.

Rae
also listening to the Clash...so we have some solidarity here.

Re: I am schmoopy there's no denying it

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

You know how everyone's got bits of canon they can ignore and bits they can't? I think the Doctorhood may be one of those for me, and we know that it looks like a... humanhood. Though I am very amused by the idea of someone going "WTF is that thing?" about it.

I'm just awful at one true love. Always have been, any fandom and outwith fandom as well. DW I seem to have a kind of kneejerk horror of the notion, which is strange I know but there you go. Though I've thought of playing with the idea that he does have one and it's the Dead Wife and then writing something incredibly weird and dark where the Doctor keeps trying to replace her. Because I am really, really bad at trying to write One True Love and keep breaking up my ships to watch them emo about it.

Though bear in mind I reckon the Doctor's real name is Morris Love or possibly Arthur.

Yes, we obviously have reached an impasse

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

...on our idealism. You have a knee-jerk reaction to OTL and I have a need to elevate everything to epic proportions (with the possible exception of the Doctor's Doctorhood). Perhaps, you are now hearing Wagner.

But this is the heart, as I say elsewhere, of every fandom boondoggle...people just don't have the same needs. And we all want our heroes to reflect our own ideals. So we squabble...uselessly...because the show is going to just go on fumbling in the dark...reflecting the ideals of its creator and the BBC.

Incidentally, I give him human genitalia in Suicide Blonde (though it has even more OTL overtones, sadly)...and I've toyed recently with the idea of a ficlet where Jackie learns about the Orchid-nature of it and can't stop laughing. Rose tells her mum that the Doctor doesn't have to look human...he can have two heads or no head. And Jackie says, "Two heads? Down there? Oh, now that would be interesting."

Rae

Re: Yes, we obviously have reached an impasse

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I do epic it up, but I go for The Myth Of The Lonely God more than I think you do? The uniqueness of The Oncoming Storm and how he constantly needs someone because of that, with the central irony that a) it can't happen because he's too differnt from everyone else and b) he doesn't completely want it either. Plenty of people get one epic romance, but those people don't live in Magic Time-Travelling Boxes. The more epicness I can fit in, the happier I am. And I totally overmythologise the half-human thing. Hybrid demi-god, dude! Whee! That and I do like DW having an unusual angle by not prioritising Romantic Love, since that's everywhere and it can get a bit samey after a while. YMMV, but it takes all sorts to make a fandom, don't it?

Possibly one reason it's historically been such a... "lively" fandom is because of the constant change of creators. We don't have a Creator-God they way X-Files or Buffy does. Every idea is transcient and maybe of the approaches don't fit together. Verity Lambert soooo didn't intend that the Doctor was on Earth hiding the Hand of Omega, but Andrew Cartmel reckoned that was a sound notion. Understandable that people argue when that sort of thing is going on. (I think Cartmel was the first to get vastly into the "she completes him" thing, curiously enough.) Looms or human mother or something else entirely, y'know?

And of course, the Doctor would never cheat on [Insert Name Here]. ;)