Awww! A little Indigo Child tells him momma something important.

[rabid1st]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the concept of Indigo Children. They are supposedly children that have come into the world with lots of soul knowledge that they can share with us all. I'm not sure that I believe in the concept, myself. I think, rather, that children are only now being listened to, even recorded, by their parents. I think children probably always had soul knowledge to share, just like animals do, but our Patriarchal society wasn't listening.

Anyway, I am not a vegan, but I do think this kid makes a valid argument for it.

Of course, the cynics among you could make a case for this lad being coached. But I make this same argument against war and capital punishment. That is, that we shouldn't be killing people, for no other reason than because they are people. And my little neice told me much the same thing as this kid the other day. She said, she would rather not eat animals if it means they have to die. Also, she said she isn't planning to die herself, at all. So there.

Rae

EDIT TO SAY: Whoops! It is hard to see the translations into English. Move your mouse off the video, or watch on YouTube if it is hard to see.

Comments

[auntiesuze.livejournal.com]

I think that children just see the world in much more simple terms than we do (and many would say, see the world as it IS, before we bring all our adult bs into it!). I think the Indigo Child movement is a load of crap, but the fact that we should listen to what children have to say is not.

A lot of children go through this realization and decide that they don't want to eat any animals, and I think that we should respect that. Many (if not most) decide that they miss their chicken fingers and hot dogs too much and go back to being omnivores. But some will remain life-long vegetarians (or some variant thereof). Nothing wrong with that! (as long as they are getting all the proper nutrition through other foods)

Me, I was a born carnivore. Little Suze had no moral dilemmas about chowing down on burgers and pork chops. XD

As for the octopus gnocci? I refuse to eat that just because both potato and octopus taste yucky. ;)

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Oddly, enough, I never had a problem with eating meat either. And I adored animals. But then, I was partially raised by a cat. My cat Sheba took a real interest in my education as a child...including hunting rabbits and birds and such. I never managed to kill anything...and, neither did she...on our hunts. I was too loud and clumsy. She despaired of me. And once brought me a live baby bunny to kill at home...only I set it free. This made Sheba actually growl at me, and she had a real look of frustration on her little furry face, because I wouldn't let her back out to recapture the little hopper. We watched it hop away, while Sheba chittered at me.

Still, I don't think we should kill animals in a frenzy of killing, either. For the so-called sport of it. So I don't hunt or fish, because I don't have to. And I don't enjoy killing at all. I kill to survive. But my dilemma comes with animals we now know are self-aware...like the whales and dolphins...and octopi. I feel some moral hesitation over killing them. And I don't feel we should now that we don't have to kill to survive.

Also, I don't think we are natural carnivores...or herbivores...I think we are opportunistic eaters. We used to eat what we could find as we traveled...a ton of leafy greens, a few handfuls of berries, nuts, slugs, eggs, fish, root veggies. That is the natural human diet and we would all be healthy on it.

But, of course, we can digest meat and we had natural sugars in fruits and honey. I believe the drive for sugar comes from how rare it was...the same as the drive for salt and fat. I doubt we had much dairy naturally...until we started keeping goats or cattle. Nor did we eat refined grains. But I bet we cooked potatoes as soon as we had fire...because we found them cooked for us after forest fires, I'd wager. And I would imagine that is where we also got our taste for bar-b-que. :grin:

POLVO is Portuguese for OCTOPUS

[astitchintime-9.livejournal.com]

Hurrah! This video has gone viral in a hurry! I watched it earlier today, and was going to go back into your archives to comment the link on a previous octopus video (of which you have several, IIRC!), but the fact that you've given this its own, new post is much better!

I really wanted to share this with you and as it happens, you've gone ahead and shared it with me AND many others!


"...my dilemma comes with animals we now know are self-aware...like the whales and dolphins...and octopi. I feel some moral hesitation over killing them..."

Kudos to you for your own spiritual awareness, Indigo Woman!

Yes, they are intelligent; as are many other species (squirrels, crows, cats, etc.). I believe that more species have sentience than science or society give them credit for.


P.S. - It's an OCTOPUS post: of course I'm going to comment! ;-D

Re: POLVO is Portuguese for OCTOPUS

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

I should start tagging them. I have come to love the octopi.

I believe most animals have a level of sentience, and certainly are not lesser beings, so perhaps the vegans are right and we shouldn't eat any of them. But I don't believe unfertilized eggs are sentient, so I might still eat them.

I suppose, like Temple Grandin and many aboriginals, I believe in cruelty free coexistence. Nature is like that. You never see a raptor killing for sport, they peacefully coexist with their prey until they are hungry.

[marrael.livejournal.com]

Video isn't loading for me, but as someone who deems herself a convenient vegetarian (I eat vegetarian when it's convenient to, and meat only when starving) I think craving meat is a learned habit, like craving candy. I'm mum to a kid who doesn't like meat/fish, except in processed/salted form, and I don't give her much of that. And she could care less about candy, though she will have the occasional baked good. I think it's shocking to other parents around me that my girl pooh-poohs candy. I didn't teach her that. She just never learned to like it. Chocolate distresses her because it sticks to her teeth!

As for Indigo Children, they're supposed to have been coming in since 1972. I could qualify for one, since I was born after, and I remember beliefs from childhood (that I still hold) that fly in the face of consensus reality and that I didn't really learn from my parents or teachers. I don't know if I'd call it a movement; just that in the big scheme of spiritual literature, the Indigos been coming in order to coincide with the shifts connected with 2012. We're supposed to be welcoming the Rainbow and Crystal children now, not that I know what the difference is between them and Indigo. I will say there can be world of difference between people "in tune" and those who aren't--it's nothing to do with age, but everything to do with some kids/people that seem to have a purpose/ different way of looking at things, while others just kinda get lost in drama.