Pony Pep Talk Needed...ARRGGH!

[rabid1st]

I have had a premonition of a pony-free Christmas as RTD and company start giving interviews about The Next Doctor all over the interwebs.

It took hold of me for no good reason. I have no additional spoiler news or anything, so don't fret over that. Suddenly, I just saw RTD talking up something that was completely ordinary (The Next Doctor) and I thought...he's not going to come through for us. He just doesn't get it. Though he did say he's getting better at hiding information from the press and fans.

I think this sudden loss of faith comes from the confidence they are showing going to Comic Con. They have what they think is an epic finale in the bag and they are ready to face questions from the audience with no fear of influence, no possiblity of second guessing themselves. I have to wonder what sort of reception they are going to get from the fans. Obviously, there is a lot of ill will about Donna, but most of the Rose-lovers seem to have given up the ship. I don't know...maybe this has all just gone on too long for me to keep being optimistic.

Someone give me a pep talk.

Depressing Pessimists are NOT welcome!

:grin:

Comments

Re: Here I go again with the "EXACTLY!"

[sensiblecat.livejournal.com]

Going back to the scenario where he rejects the Time Lords in favour of humanity (which I wrote, in a modified form including Jack in "Undiscovered Country") - I think they HAVE to come back for that to happen and that's why I squeed when I saw the Timothy Dalton pic. Because if they continue to be dead and gone, Ten is free to have his idealised image of them. Guilt would influence him and make him try to be the perfect representative of his species, with no reality to check it.

Bring 'em back and he'll slip right back into being the rebel and needling them. (Oh, just think of DT playing that - the best thing about his Hamlet was that, despite being twice the age, he caught the obnoxious adolescent to a T. In the court scene he showed up barefoot, thrust himself at Ophelia and spoke filthily to her, and it was a brilliant moment!)

I've just spent a weekend in Stratford working on Antony and Cleopatra and I saw so many parallels between DW and that mythical love. Shakespeare took two mature, conflicted, complex and not always very nice individuals, and he honoured their choice to destroy themselves rather than compromise their integrity by denying what they had found in one another. In many ways, Anthony was similarly torn - he couldn't be a Roman as his society defined it while he was in Egypt, yet that was the only place he felt really alive. The difference was there was still a Rome around for him to reject. But imagine if a nuclear bomb had fallen on Italy and he was the only elite Roman left, the responsibility he'd feel to deny himself and represent his species. It all depends on whether we define ourselves by our genetic and cultural heritage, or through the relationships that we find most meaningful. Acknowledge those, and it can be that even at the moment of death we have never felt more alive.

The tragedy of Journeys End is that the Doctor doesn't just deny himself that release and integrity, which any individual has the right to do. He also denies it to the woman he loves.

Timothy Dalton could also be The Other

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

or someone else in a flashback scenario. If they mean to explain about the metacrisis...they will need to reference Gallifrey for that. But, having the Time Lords back also works for rejecting the Time Lords.

Another possibility is that Dalton is playing a new version of the Valeyard.

I know...I know...I've gone to the Valeyard every season...but, dangnabit...it is the one really big question from Old School that RTD hasn't addressed and it is intimately tied in to the Doctor destroying Gallifrey. Also, it would underline the idea that the Doctor shouldn't be alone...and even underscore the use of the term "Naismith"...as in Not Smith...as in a Doctor gone bad. If the Doctor was sure that his enemy was the Master...then he learned that the Master was only a pawn in a hellish game that HE...the Doctor had set up...well...it might give us a grand enemy tie-in for S5, too.

Sadly, I am not a big fan of the revelation of your love in the moment of death scenario. Only because it, too, is over used. I do agree that there is something to be said for living that relatively short life with Rose...because it will be the same as loving for an hour...in our lifetime. But, I would rather see a hero who can embrace his desires than one who plays the martyr. I, also, feel that RTD sort of denies something very important in the gay community when he says the Doctor loves Rose but just can't be with her...because...he's a time lord and she's a human. That's very much like denying love...as you say.

Rae