I know I said the last time was the last time...

[rabid1st]

...but this time is definitely the last time. At least until the next time some crack!spec idea occurs to me...this one is a doozy though.

Do we really need to consider any of these spoilers? I think not...but just in case...here is a cut to protect the innocent from having their brains liquified by the crackiness.

Okay...wait for it...

...wait--!

Ready?

"Grown not built!"

:opens arms wide: TADA!

:cocks head because you are all giving me rather alarmed looks:

I have NOT had too much coffee. Sixteen cups is perfect normal in some circles. Lemme sum up...

What if Donna is a TARDIS?

Linked to the Doctor's TARDIS (and so the Doctor) by those particles she was dosed with...apparently...but maybe not...maybe she's just in the growing process. Then the Bad Wolf energy can bring her into her own...and she can be full of alternative realities or something...or she could get the Doctor's hand to make another Time Lord for her.

Okay...so that's rather like Disheveled. And really, really far-fetched...but still...neat...we never think of the TARDIS, do we? Yet, it was listed as a companion in Midnight.



Rae

Comments

[frodolass.livejournal.com]

I rather prefer to think that Rose is a TARDIS now, a la Compassion from the books. It makes sense to me that when she and the TARDIS hooked up and looked into each other, the TARDIS knew that her frail human body would not be able to handle the vortex for even a few seconds without dying, let alone maintaining it for a good two minutes or so. Nine sure as heck did not last as long as she did, and he had to regenerate. So why did she live? Probably because the TARDIS changed her in some way, making her into a vessel that could withstand the power of the vortex. Something like a TARDIS, maybe? =D

Which is the reason why I squeed so hard when Rose just vanished into thin air in PiC. It seemed as if my theory had come true. I can see RTD continuing his trend of making bits and pieces of book canon.. well, Canon in the TV series, on his own terms. The Time War, Human Nature, and other instances I can't recall (too tired) are just a few examples of this trend, so why not human TARDISes too? XD

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Well...you could see why I wouldn't go for Rose is a TARDIS as a theory...since that would make Disheveled pretty much canon...and be rather self-involved of me. Though I obviously did think that made perfect sense at one time and still think it makes sense as a way of doing a complete forever with the Doctor and Rose.

Still, I am basing everything now on the idea that it IS the Doctor and Donna that must save the universe. This theory is pure crack and came out of the idea that the TARDIS is mentioned as a companion. I had forgotten about Compassion but don't really see that it would matter to RTD as he pillages the books anyway...the Time War itself is from the books.

But I think any solution would have to run through Donna for this season as it is her season...and if some amazing transformation is coming...it would probably be of her. So Rose doesn't make sense at this late date...except as an incidental part of the transformation of Donna...like Bad Wolf supplies the power for whatever it is...since Jack still has that power inside...and Rose may well still be able to access it.

Rae

Aw hell, LET Rose and the Doctor have their forever!

[frodolass.livejournal.com]

I can see what you mean about Donna in context of the finale. It should be her and the Doctor that ultimately save the day. I just wasn't really considering that when I was theorizing about Rose, since I came up with this theory only just after Tooth and Claw. It would be too much for the finale, I agree. But then again, maybe it's something that could pop up at a later date or, as you say, it can be a mention in connection to Donna doing her thing to save the day.

I can even see the TARDIS making continuing, sort of how Time Lords can pass on their abilities to others, according to your spec. TARDIS!Rose could make Donna into a TARDIS as well, or heck even Jack. It would explain the crack of how Jack could turn into the Face of Boe, since a chameleon circuit could technically change their appearance into whatever is appropriate. And it would be another way around keeping characters in the series long after their original actors stop playing them. ^__~

Well...I think that the idea of the TARDIS

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Breeding goes hand in hand with the idea of the Doctor breeding...perpetuating himself somehow. Again, I refer you to the end of Disheveled. ;-> Which is a story, I know you liked...and I certainly felt was plausible.

But you know...all of this could just be the way I'm looking at things from Last of the Time Lords. RTD could well have been setting up his Ten/Rose forever idea by allowing the Doctor to age normally for a human under the laserScrewdriver...but...there has been no explanation in the canon for what happened to him. Maybe he did respond to the laser adversely and get older...or maybe the re-energizing of love from the earthlings re-energized him so much that he doesn't age normally NOW.

The nice thing about scifi is that you can do anything you like until you flat out say you cannot do something. Though sometimes there are inferences that you have to seriously explain away if you want to change things that you've already established. And sometimes explaining those things away makes you look like a twit: Lungbarrow. *cough*

In other words...if they want David Tennant to go to Rose live a life with her and then come back still looking like youngish David Tennant...then they will need to explain how/why he aged so much in one episode and so little in a later one. It could well be that Rose doesn't age normally now either...as she was exposed to the Vortex...and Jack is immortal from that. So, it could be that even though Rose retained her humanity after the Doctor took the power from her...she was still changed at the cellular level.

The nice thing about minimalism in Doctor Who is that we have the ability to create so much out of it in our heads. I think someone like RTD is a master at letting us make up stuff in our heads by only giving us the information we need for his storyline. One of the reasons all my theories for the endgame are crack...is that they are far too complex. RTD will be working on something simple...but possibly far-reaching...like Donna being the first human Time Lord...or a time lord in disguise. First Human Time Lord though...puts a real mark on the series, changes it at a fundamental level without changing it at all in other ways.

This minimalist business is not to be confused with Moffat...who leaves things out of his storyline and then over explains them later. Moffat tells us too much on one level and not enough on another. Though I do admit that all those people thinking Rose was going to stay on the ship forever in Girl in the Fireplace were completely off their nuts...because yeah...he'd set up the program before to take her home...AND...he flat out says, "Always wait 5 and 1/2 hours." Which indicates, clearly, that Rose was the one waiting on him...and so could have left at any time.

Still, I think Moffat's excessive misdirection with Reinette...something he does again with River...is just jarring to the regular viewers. It will be interesting to see what he does when he's in charge of everything...but the idea of David coming back...that's one that is hard to reconcile with any sort of happy ending for Rose...beyond the one I offer in the TARDIS.

While I was sure Billie was coming back all along...I don't know that she would come back AGAIN...maybe. But beyond that...I don't think Moffat should get his mitts on Ten...he doesn't really have the sense of continuity he would need to make Ten the emo-boy that he's been. I hear a chorus of fans going "Good!" But people, I fear, will not respond well to DT as slutboi in space week to week. To me...Ten looked uncomfortable with River...and I think if we mean to make the Doctor an intergalactic player...we need to give him a new personality.

Of course, maybe that's what they intend to do if there is any truth to the DoctorDonna business.

Rae