SIGNS & PORTENTS - Dr. Who S2 Spoilers
Jul. 9th, 2006 09:01 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
rabid1stAll the way to the finale, Doomsday!
I couldn't sleep last night. I was heartbroken, more so than seems possible over a fictional event. But more than that I was angry. I felt cheated. We didn't even get a true kiss. We didn't get closure. Or a declaration of the love everyone knew was there and eternal. What the hell kind of ending was that? I ranted...through the night. I tossed and turned and thumped my pillow into odd shapes. Then my muse started drinking (metaphorically...I only allow her metaphoric alcohol)...and spinning tales.
This couldn't be the end she told me...not because it sucked...but because...it couldn't be the end for these two characters. Which when I thought about it for a minute...turned out to be true. Let's look at the facts.
1) He's the Doctor. Mickey and Pete and Jake and Rose all tell us in this episode that he can do anything. As if we didn't know that already. ;->
2) Mickey also points out that just because the Doctor says "Nobody can cross a dimensional barrier" doesn't mean that "Nobody can." Lots of things the Doctor says are impossible are possible once he thinks them through.
3) Rose is Rose. She's not a shop girl. She's been a god. She's not about to go back to being ordinary. She' working at Torchwood. Where we already know they have loads of alien technology...enough to open up the door between worlds...not once but a thousand times.
4) Jackie and Pete act as the foils for Rose and the Doctor in this. The Doctor knows about love now. He knows what a man will do for his beloved and he uses that to manipulate the reunion that he knows Rose craves. There are tons of mirroring moments, like when both the Doctor and Pete put the chains around the necks of their respective Tyler women. How when the Doctor was screaming Rose's name as she slipped toward Hell...Pete was the one to save her. How...when Jackie tells Pete that there was never anyone else...Mickey rolls his eyes and smirks (because, as we know, there were loads of other people) but the Doctor looks at Rose...because he understands how there can be lots of people...and yet, no one else. It's been 20 years for Jackie...he's not the man she remembers...but they are still in love.
5) Repeatedly Rose and the Doctor have told us that they won't be separated. In the Satan Pit, the Doctor faced with certain death, no route of escape and only a few minutes of oxygen says, "Oh, I'll get back, Rose is up there." In Idiot's Lantern he says, "I'm coming" when she is trapped in the telly and also that "No power on earth" will stop him. When the Doctor send Rose to Earth for a happy life...she gets back to him...when he tries to send her to the other dimension...she gets back to him. Belief the Doctor says is all he needs to work miracles. He believes in Rose. And Rose believes that "They keep trying to separate us but they never, ever will." When he is threatened by the Dalek God she takes the time vortex into her body and rescues him. When a staggeringly powerful alien makes him over into a drawing...she uses her love and the love and belief of others to save him. They put the devil in his place, together.
6) As![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
flavoured just reminded me, they are also alike now, the Doctor and Rose. Both alone. Both defenders of the Earth. Both "the stuff of legends." Both in love. Both determined not to harm the worlds they live in...and yet...equally...able to laugh at the idea of shattering two dimensions to be together. Look at how they are when they are clinging for their lives. Look at how they both face down the Daleks. Look at the way they both talk about "ripping through" the void/barrier. The way he puts his glasses on her. The way they both lean into the wall and their fingertips strain to reach through time and space and the void. If it would be hard to imagine some problem in the universe being more than the Doctor can handle...imagine one that could flummox both him AND Rose...forever. Not bloody likely.
7) The Doctor didn't get to tell her how he feels. It was killing him. It would be admitting defeat to be defeated that way. And the Doctor never admits defeat. He burned up a sun to say a proper goodbye. And that was when he could still delude himself into thinking she and Mickey would be living the happy ever after. Now he knows that won't happen. We know it won't happen...because of the three people together holding hands behind Rose while she weeps and clings to the wall. Because Rose is sleeping alone when she knows Mickey loves her. Rose is the outsider. This is her family together and she's happy about that...but she's looking for a way back to her Doctor...you can bet on it.
Rae
I couldn't sleep last night. I was heartbroken, more so than seems possible over a fictional event. But more than that I was angry. I felt cheated. We didn't even get a true kiss. We didn't get closure. Or a declaration of the love everyone knew was there and eternal. What the hell kind of ending was that? I ranted...through the night. I tossed and turned and thumped my pillow into odd shapes. Then my muse started drinking (metaphorically...I only allow her metaphoric alcohol)...and spinning tales.
This couldn't be the end she told me...not because it sucked...but because...it couldn't be the end for these two characters. Which when I thought about it for a minute...turned out to be true. Let's look at the facts.
1) He's the Doctor. Mickey and Pete and Jake and Rose all tell us in this episode that he can do anything. As if we didn't know that already. ;->
2) Mickey also points out that just because the Doctor says "Nobody can cross a dimensional barrier" doesn't mean that "Nobody can." Lots of things the Doctor says are impossible are possible once he thinks them through.
3) Rose is Rose. She's not a shop girl. She's been a god. She's not about to go back to being ordinary. She' working at Torchwood. Where we already know they have loads of alien technology...enough to open up the door between worlds...not once but a thousand times.
4) Jackie and Pete act as the foils for Rose and the Doctor in this. The Doctor knows about love now. He knows what a man will do for his beloved and he uses that to manipulate the reunion that he knows Rose craves. There are tons of mirroring moments, like when both the Doctor and Pete put the chains around the necks of their respective Tyler women. How when the Doctor was screaming Rose's name as she slipped toward Hell...Pete was the one to save her. How...when Jackie tells Pete that there was never anyone else...Mickey rolls his eyes and smirks (because, as we know, there were loads of other people) but the Doctor looks at Rose...because he understands how there can be lots of people...and yet, no one else. It's been 20 years for Jackie...he's not the man she remembers...but they are still in love.
5) Repeatedly Rose and the Doctor have told us that they won't be separated. In the Satan Pit, the Doctor faced with certain death, no route of escape and only a few minutes of oxygen says, "Oh, I'll get back, Rose is up there." In Idiot's Lantern he says, "I'm coming" when she is trapped in the telly and also that "No power on earth" will stop him. When the Doctor send Rose to Earth for a happy life...she gets back to him...when he tries to send her to the other dimension...she gets back to him. Belief the Doctor says is all he needs to work miracles. He believes in Rose. And Rose believes that "They keep trying to separate us but they never, ever will." When he is threatened by the Dalek God she takes the time vortex into her body and rescues him. When a staggeringly powerful alien makes him over into a drawing...she uses her love and the love and belief of others to save him. They put the devil in his place, together.
6) As
flavoured just reminded me, they are also alike now, the Doctor and Rose. Both alone. Both defenders of the Earth. Both "the stuff of legends." Both in love. Both determined not to harm the worlds they live in...and yet...equally...able to laugh at the idea of shattering two dimensions to be together. Look at how they are when they are clinging for their lives. Look at how they both face down the Daleks. Look at the way they both talk about "ripping through" the void/barrier. The way he puts his glasses on her. The way they both lean into the wall and their fingertips strain to reach through time and space and the void. If it would be hard to imagine some problem in the universe being more than the Doctor can handle...imagine one that could flummox both him AND Rose...forever. Not bloody likely.7) The Doctor didn't get to tell her how he feels. It was killing him. It would be admitting defeat to be defeated that way. And the Doctor never admits defeat. He burned up a sun to say a proper goodbye. And that was when he could still delude himself into thinking she and Mickey would be living the happy ever after. Now he knows that won't happen. We know it won't happen...because of the three people together holding hands behind Rose while she weeps and clings to the wall. Because Rose is sleeping alone when she knows Mickey loves her. Rose is the outsider. This is her family together and she's happy about that...but she's looking for a way back to her Doctor...you can bet on it.
Rae