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Meaningless Doctor Who Quotes
Or...I can read a pony into any old shadow on the side of a building...
...if I tilt my head just right and squint.
This quote, like all the rest of them, is completely meaningless because it comes out of context and is related to the psychology of people I just don't know very well.
So, I get all excited about it...because I hope it means what I want it to mean...and yet, in the end...it probably doesn't mean anything like what I want it to mean.
Confused?
Pop under this cut for a very short, probably meaningless, pony-squeeable quote from DT...
Asked about how his run as the Doctor ends...
iF: Did it finish the way you wanted?
TENNANT: [huge smile] Oh, yeah.
Well, then...all we really need to know is what David wanted.
He certainly always seemed to be a Ten/Rose shipper...and a heroic and memorable end is always the best kind. Leave the audience uplifted and singing your praises. But he could also have layers as an actor...and be proud of a worthy death sequence. Hard to say. One thing I noted about a few San Diego interviews...David and RTD kept praising Billie...then quickly adding in Catherine Tate and others. They would go...actors the caliber of Billie...and Catherine Tate...and the rest. Making me wonder...is it just that they both love Billie and find her iconic? Or does she have some bigger part to play than a single flashback scene?
Because the one thing in S4 that seemed to really please David...was having Billie back on set and acting out those uber-romantic moments with her. Though he never mentions that directly...he does make it very clear in the video diaries. And in the confidential...where he gushes about Rose being "all he (the Doctor) wants in the universe." Oh...and when he was giving a recent interview...the interviewer suggested he must have enjoyed the Bad Wolf Bay scene...and he actually seemed very taken aback...and then said..."Well, that one was very hard to do, but yes, you are proud of the work, looking back." So...he didn't like it.
...if I tilt my head just right and squint.
This quote, like all the rest of them, is completely meaningless because it comes out of context and is related to the psychology of people I just don't know very well.
So, I get all excited about it...because I hope it means what I want it to mean...and yet, in the end...it probably doesn't mean anything like what I want it to mean.
Confused?
Pop under this cut for a very short, probably meaningless, pony-squeeable quote from DT...
Asked about how his run as the Doctor ends...
iF: Did it finish the way you wanted?
TENNANT: [huge smile] Oh, yeah.
Well, then...all we really need to know is what David wanted.
He certainly always seemed to be a Ten/Rose shipper...and a heroic and memorable end is always the best kind. Leave the audience uplifted and singing your praises. But he could also have layers as an actor...and be proud of a worthy death sequence. Hard to say. One thing I noted about a few San Diego interviews...David and RTD kept praising Billie...then quickly adding in Catherine Tate and others. They would go...actors the caliber of Billie...and Catherine Tate...and the rest. Making me wonder...is it just that they both love Billie and find her iconic? Or does she have some bigger part to play than a single flashback scene?
Because the one thing in S4 that seemed to really please David...was having Billie back on set and acting out those uber-romantic moments with her. Though he never mentions that directly...he does make it very clear in the video diaries. And in the confidential...where he gushes about Rose being "all he (the Doctor) wants in the universe." Oh...and when he was giving a recent interview...the interviewer suggested he must have enjoyed the Bad Wolf Bay scene...and he actually seemed very taken aback...and then said..."Well, that one was very hard to do, but yes, you are proud of the work, looking back." So...he didn't like it.
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I had a very random bit of inspiration the other night. What if the Doctor's death has something to do with bringing back the Time Lords/Gallifrey (or some of them at least)? We know that Dalek Caan managed to get Davros out of the Time Lock, so it *is* possible. Maybe the Doctor does something along these lines to save his people...sort of a bookend to RTD's series which began (not long before we the views come back on board) with the Doctor being the one to destroy his people. It would be rather elegant for him to be the one who saves them. It would alleviate a whole bunch of the guilt that he's been carrying around and maybe give his next incarnation a clean slate (just in time for SM and crew).
This is just complete speculation on my part, but I thought it wrapped things up nicely. Not as nicely as getting a pony...but maybe we can get that, too. 60-70 years with Rose Tyler then after she's gone, sacrifice himself. That'd work. :)
Okay...I am looking at you now...
That JUST occured to you?
That has been the geek-boy alternative to the pony all along. Save Gallifrey...put things back the way they were...there is a link there with Davros saying, "A simple Dalek did what you could not do."
So, yes...he ruins his ship and gives his life...working with the Master, perhaps...to bring Gallifrey back and buy redemption. Now, I know that you haven't been out there on the regular DW boards, where that is the only theory going...bringing back the Time Lords and Gallifrey in a sweeping reset.
I hate this theory...because I like Gallifrey free Who...for now. And I don't see that it really solves anything...but it does leave Moffat with a clean slate and it is a good explanation for David saying, "He does what he could only do at the end of his life." Basically, he breaks the laws of time...and dies getting his people back...coming full circle. And really...well...the Time Lords could give him a magic life with Rose as a reward...or something. So, it could still be pony friendly. I don't like it because it resets the main thing that is interesting about New Who...no Time Lords but him.
Rae
Re: Okay...I am looking at you now...
Worse, yet...
Rabid is deeply wounded by this.
:grin:
I mock gently...I mock with love...
Dalek Caan and the Doctor have a lot in common. They are the last sad remants of their kind. In the first season of New Who we are told that the amazing thing about the human race was the way they got out there and mingled with all the other species in the universe. They danced. They interbred. Humans and aliens mixed and became something new and exciting. All the other Daleks of Skaaro gave that a shot...but not Caan...he was clinging to the past. He wanted to have the glory of his lost empire back...so he flew into the Time Vortex. I can see the Doctor wanting the same thing...Gallifrey back. Worse, I can see the fans going...oh, good. But is it good to resurrect the dead past in the hopes of making it better this time? Father's Day told us no...you can start over with another man...but you can't make the dead live again.
And again...in December...
You know...I never even thought of The Dead Planet in terms of Gallifrey. But I suppose it could be...that is the logical thing that we are aiming at here...if we are giving the Doctor some solace which he has not earned...then Gallifrey comes back...so the Doctor is no longer sad.
I suppose he could use his dimension canon to bring Gallifrey back, too. But I just wonder if bringing Gallifrey back is a good idea. It is such a complete reset that it seems like one of those end of the line ideas. Something to do in S7 when the ratings are in the toilet and they have run out of ideas. Still, it would whitewash over his loss...he can't be sad anymore if he hasn't lost his homeworld.
The theory embedded in the text of what RTD has done...is that he will one day UNDO it. That the Doctor will not, cannot continue on alone. But I remember the Time Lords...they were not a solution. I do believe Moffat should bring them back...in his third season...because then it will be time to tell some new stories and the Doctor might need a powerful set of rivals. But it will negate ALL of the Doctor's guilt...and that's probably not what New Who needs. That said...it is a simple way to reset for Moffat...it would make Ten a blockbuster hero...I can see him going through the Time Lock...the TARDIS evaporating around him...so it's definitely possible that's what happens.
Rae
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If we do go with Time Lords back...then...we aren't completely undone from a pony perspective. The Doctor can have a reward/exile to Rose. Donna and 10.5 could be magically reset as well...because Time Lords can do that sort of thing. They might consider it cleaning up after the Doctor, fixing his messes. And every story is all fixed up in a nice Christmas bow. This allows Moffat to write a season that suits his youthful/old Doctor...because Eleven could be working off his punishment, treated as a child...we know that the Time Lords can make him look like whatever they wish.
Somewhere...I mentioned that if the Time Lords come back, River would also work as a jailer or parole officer for the Doctor. Then, the handcuff innuendo is meaningful and she knows his name to keep him in line...but gradually falls in love with him...and ends up in a virtual world. I can see Moffat mixing up wife and jailer, too. :grin:
Rae