Doctor Who Children In Need Clippage for Christmas...spoilers

[rabid1st]

Bet you all have been wondering where I've been...or not...anyway...new Doctor Who brings me to the surface. And we find that I find that I've been wrong and other people are much closer to the mark on this one...in my less than humble, if modified, opinion.

Under the cut we go...

So, I've seen the YouTube clippage. My original theory was that Morrisey was an alternative version of the Doctor. At no time did I feel he was actually going to be "The Next Doctor"...so if he is...I will be shocked.

Others have presented the idea that Morrisey was going to be playing some sort of confidence man or fan of the Doctor...a human dressed up as the Doctor. The main person I remember putting forward this theory was nightbeast but I'm sure there were others, too.

My friend Kes has a new spin on the latter concept...that Morrisey is an actor in a play, doing a street performance to increase turnout. And I agree, he does seem to be playing the part of Nine and Ten combined. He sounds very like Nine. This theory also explains Rosita...who is, quite naturally, a combination of Rose and Martha. Kes feels that the cyberman looks fake...and even though I know about the cybershades...I tend to agree with her. So, I am falling in line with the "Next Doctor" being a person pretending to be the Doctor.

But...my core idea about Christmas 2008...remains unchanged...I still say this is the Doctor's chance to examine his life and see where he's been screwing up royally. The only question I have now is...will he come to the conclusion that he's done his best...and offer us a Merry Christmas Everyone...or will he see that he is loved and promise to mend his ways?

Rae
Mend! Mend! Mend! Like the Pony! Pony! Pony!

Comments

[ladymalchav.livejournal.com]

I like the actor idea. I've been going around calling him a LARPer. XD

LARPer...good one!

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

The actor idea is intriguing for a number of reasons.

1) It means Beastie was right very early on...so go her.

2) It leads us to a deeper villian in the piece...someone who wrote this play and therefore knows the Doctor rather well...makes me wonder if it was the Doctor himself...but I think instead, if it is true that we are dealing with actors, that it was someone who observed him with his companions. And it makes me wonder about River and her diary...was it simply found and exploited by another.

3) I think the idea of companion/Doctor interaction will be explored more easily if the Doctor is there sort of protesting the portrayal of him and "Rosita." He can try to illuminate things that he wouldn't normally discuss with another person.

4) It still allows the Doctor to get at some Christmas Carol moments...as he sees how he is seen by other people...what his actions look like to the humans around him. And maybe he will change his ways.

5) The very idea of a biography would seem to indicate that the Doctor is no longer relevant...but I don't know that it tells us that...since he does come and go from time periods.

Rae
rather looking forward to Christmas...even if we don't get our Pony! I hope we get our Pony before David leaves.

Re: LARPer...good one!

[ladymalchav.livejournal.com]

Considering every single person who knows anything about Time Lords thinks they are either a myth or all gone, I don't think he'd have to be 'no longer relevant'.

I also don't think any one 'someone' would have to write it, or have to know a whole lot about the Doctor to do so. I mean, imagine what's on the books at Torchwood or UNIT already. Add to that second-or-third-hand accounts of his adventures passed on through years and years, well... it's kind of how we got from Vlad Dracul to Dracula to Anne Rice to Vampires: the Masquerade.

But, yeah, I think the Doctor seeing how people will think of him when he's not there to be all 'No, no, don't do that.' will be pretty interesting. And hilarious. XD

[auntiesuze.livejournal.com]

I completely got the "fake Doctor" vibe from DM, too. He's definitely pretending, but whether he's just a crazy fan (which we would know *nothing* about, right??? lol), someone trying to do good in the world as "The Doctor", some sort of actor or patsy, I have no idea.

I do think that the Doctor will, at the very least, get a look at himself from the outside. Nothing like somebody portraying a not-all-that-exaggerated version of yourself to have all your foibles shoved in your face!

I don't think there will be anything else with Rose, though. I'm pretty darn sure that RTD closed that chapter (at least in his own mind) with "Journey's End". God knows I'm hoping for it, but realistically...the Doctor will never see her again.

I was actually hoping that there would be a CiN DW special that was a quick glimpse of Rose and 10.5 having a happy life (as opposed to that horrible, ambiguous note they ended on). But it doesn't look like there's an actual DW special this year. Darn it.

[ladymalchav.livejournal.com]

...someone trying to do good in the world as "The Doctor", some sort of actor or patsy...

lol, I thought for a second you said 'pansy'! XD

[nightbeast.livejournal.com]

Hooray! Although, not a huge leap of imagination on my part, given my dress up hobby. ;)

I like the actor in a play idea. I'm also trying to remember when Rose, Nine, Ten and Martha were in England in the early eighteenth century, or indeed Jack, for such accurate mimics of characters. Unquiet dead was 1869. Martha was Shakespeare and WWI. Jack said in Utopia he (also) bounced to 1869... health permitting good memory, none of the good guys seem to have fed this play. So, that supports the idea of a bad guy behind the scenes who knows the Doctor.

But, that seems kind of convoluted for a Christmas story. In terms of bad guys, the festive episodes are normally self contained to attract the general viewer on Christmas Day. Has Lumic survived to build a new race of Cybermen? Do we have time for backstory for normal viewers? Has a 'normal' cyberman fell through the Void and decided to upgrade? Only... the last one has already been done, in Torchwood with Lisa, and the idea of a lone survivor in Dalek.

My idea at the moment for the bad guys is this. In 1851, there was an industrial exhibition boasting about technological advancements. It was also a peak time for child slave labour in workhouses, often with homeless kids. Put the two together, and we have kids that nobody misses with the strength, death rate and work output of a robot. It's the perfect combination for successful business.

Of course, seeing the Cybermen and working with a human Doctor, and a companion called Rose-ita who's treated like Martha is a huge reality check for the Doctor. Also, a real black woman as an actress... not the done thing in the nineteenth century. But, Doctor Who isn't exactly known for its factual accuracy at times. :)

[np-complete.livejournal.com]

In 1851, there was an industrial exhibition boasting about technological advancements. It was also a peak time for child slave labour in workhouses, often with homeless kids. Put the two together, and we have kids that nobody misses with the strength, death rate and work output of a robot. It's the perfect combination for successful business.


Even if this isn't what they're doing on the show, this is a brilliant idea for a story.

[nightbeast.livejournal.com]

Why thank you. :) But the ideas are drawn from the CIN snippet. If you pause to look at the posters in the background, they are advertising a technological advancement exhibition. The first contact the Doctor has is with a scruffily clothed kid. The height of the rusty cyberman is that of a child rather than an adult.

Of course, I could be seeing patterns in things that aren't there... ;)

[amythest-n-ice.livejournal.com]

I rather thought he was the Master, and Lucy (or whoever took the ring from the remains of the pyre) fucked up his regeneration/recreation, so all he has is memories he stole from the Doctor during TYtNW running around in his head at the moment.