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Warning...I am about to talk about last night's Heroes episode...without putting it under a cut...look away...look away...










That should be warning enough...for me to say...



...TADA! What did I tell you about Angela Petrelli and Sylar?





Yeppers! I can tell the motherly love when I see it. Also, I feel that Angela's willingness to let Nathan die...tells me HE is not her biological son. Though, she might have felt something for him on some level...I'm sure STILL that Claire and Peter are not related. Of course, another way for THAT to be true is that Claire's mom is simply lying about the paternity.

Lord knows, Noah would do whatever it took to ensure that powerful people took care of Claire if anything happened to him. So, maybe he arrange for those paternity tests to put Claire in a wealthy, powerful home.

Anyway...Heroes rocked. Hiro and Ando...priceless misunderstandings afoot. The new speedster is marvelous. The new villians are interesting, too. I love the enigmatic future Peter and Nathan's new found religous zeal. And I think the Linderman Nathan is seeing...isn't real. We are supposed to just accept it...because they are Heroes...but I think Nathan either is seeing dead people...or he's lost it. But that will become apparent as we go along.

Now...for the reason I didn't use a cut for all that...I need this Doctor Who cut here...for Christmas 2009 spoiler info.

Well, RTD has hurt me once too often for me to feel any sort of confidence in my predictions about Doctor Who. But, that said, I must say that at least I was right about the idea of The Next Doctor being what we would go for at Christmas. And I think I am right about it being a cautionary Dickensian tale, too. Considering who they have cast...that makes sense to me.

Now...please, please, pretty please with sugar on top...let me be right about the idea that we already have met "The Next Doctor" and it's 10.2 and the one little change that has to happen is that 10 needs to let go of being a Lonely God and accept that he needs someone. And that he CAN turn his job over to another authority and go live the life he wants to live with Rose Tyler. The idea of the Doctor being able to one day retire and yet go on forever...is a new and wonderful one...and I think it has canon backing with the Master...who has changed bodies a number of times in the history of the show.

It's a simple enough thing to do, I think, for Time Lords...you pass on your essence and your regenerative ability to another person...like the Doctor says in The Doctor's Daughter...it's a shared history...a shared pain. In this case...10 will pass his abilities and history to 10.2...part Time Lord/part Human. How fitting is it that "there has never been another" like him? Shouldn't the Doctor be unique? Especially, the Doctor for a new generation...part Old School/part New School? I'm just saying...it makes sense to me given what I know of the canon. I don't know if it makes sense to RTD or not, but I hope it does.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amybtvsfreak.livejournal.com
Amen! Amen! Amen!

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonesiexxx.livejournal.com
Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you put it under a cut?

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid1st.livejournal.com
Because I don't have much luck with two cuts in one post...and the Doctor Who info is an actual spoiler.

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Date: 2008-09-23 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sensiblecat.livejournal.com
Yes, I thought that sounded interesting. And I have a feeling that they're building up to a major announcement. Why this sudden flurry of ridiculous Eleven rumours in the press - good grief, now Richard Hammond is being mentioned!

RTD's book is out tomorrow. Radio One are broadcasting their top-rating breakfast show from Upper Boat on Friday - and there are phone- in contributions from David and Billie promised. Chris Moyles is a big friend of Billie's.

The second SJA series starts next week and there's a big feature in this week's RT about it. It could all be a buildup to Children In Need, but that's still weeks away.

I've a feeling that we may well know more of DT's plans by the time CIN comes round. At Comic Con JG said his decision was already made. Of course, he may be doing a few specials as 10.2, but I wonder.

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Date: 2008-09-23 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid1st.livejournal.com
See? To me...the logical thing to do is have 10.2 be the Next Doctor...and then...the Doctor can age...for one thing...and for another...it would be firmly established HOW he gets a pass beyond 13 regenerations. Sure...it could be anything...but it needs to be SOMETHING. And why not this?

Also, the whole thrust of RTD's Doctor, from Father's Day onward, has been that he CAN'T have a life, family or children ever again. And, yet, in Rose he found someone he definitely WANTS to be with and needs...a person who intuitively understands him...and is very much like him in temperment as well...but he's not made that leap of logic to HAVE her.

And that does make perfect sense from his perspective. First, he's punishing himself for being the one that butchered his people. Second, he's sure people are better off without him because he knows his life is dangerous. Third, he has a vital job to do...keeping the universe safe. And THAT is what he said to Rose...that THEY had to take care of the "cost" of saving the world. That speech of his was a "duty before everything" speech.

Donna is all about "what he's trying to give" Rose but TEN is far less definitive...and, in point of fact, actually SAYS that he still needs Rose. He says it in a backhand fashion, but it still got said...and if indeed 10.2 said the "I love you!" as everyone insists he did...then he what he was doing was confirming that TEN was going to say it.

The real question for me is...who needs Rose more? Ten or Ten II? And I think that is a no contest situation if you look at JE...because we see that Ten II is not very hung up on Rose. He's a sort of a happy go lucky fellow until he hears that he's being exiled. He wasn't the one going, "ROSE?" hopefully...every chance he got...he wasn't the one hugging her either. Nor did he gleefully explain that they could be together, he looked wistfully resigned to the idea.

The truth is nobody was happy with the "I can spend it with you, if you want!" scenario...not Rose, not 10.2 and definitely not 10...10 was pretty devastated by it and only showed a small smile when Rose seemed pleased by the idea of one heart. But again...it is a very wistful smile he gives over that....like his own hearts are breaking. And it also strikes me that he is just standing there in the TARDIS...letting Donna shut the door...letting her program the ship...he's just gutted...waiting for Donna to burn up, too, and so leave him.

Rae
who took all this to say...yes, I do think we are going to have an announcement soon...or something that is going to be clear from RTD's book...and so they are going to come clean about somethings...I still bet they lie about stuff...because they are lying liars...who lie.

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phdelicious.livejournal.com
Regarding Heroes - I really didn't need another reason to love the way your mind works, but I had been starting to feel a little crazy holding on to my Petrellis' paternity/maternity delusions through 2 seasons.

*skips Who spoilers*

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Date: 2008-09-24 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid1st.livejournal.com
You are not crazy. I think that they didn't expect the magical chemistry between Peter and Claire when they created the "save the cheerleader" storyline. But once they saw it...well...given the dynamics of THIS show...it would be foolish not to let that play out for drama.

And Mrs. Petrelli was so obviously coldblooded toward her boys...I was shocked though when I learned she was willing to let one of them die. And well...since Claire having healing powers is what was keeping Peter alive...I have to wonder if that whole relationship wasn't manufactured for HER convenience.

Still, it does look like Peter slips the leash at some point. Probably finding out about whatever is up with Claire is part of it...though from the "I always loved you" remark...maybe things never went well in the Claire/Peter arena. This is what I love about the show...you can be canon and believable and still have the future go all wonky for characters.

Whereas...in Doctor Who...it is hard to credit what happened with Ten and Rose at the end of Journey's End...because of what happens between them at the BEGINNING of Journey's End. The two halfs don't match up for a consistent whole.

Rae

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Date: 2008-09-24 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phdelicious.livejournal.com
You're probably right about not expecting the chemistry between Peter and Claire; I can't remember any specific line that was actually even really flirty.

The "genetics" of Nathan and Peter having such vastly different abilities, neither of which was evident in Angela was driving me batty though with Peter's ability to absorb its hard to really tell. Now we know that Angela dreams and she's claimed Sylar it makes a lot more sense. Plus my suspicion has always been that Linderman has a parental interest in Nathan, and then his power skips a generation and explains Claire. The "genetics" wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't have Mohindar running around pretending to be a scientist. ;-)

I think Peter and Claire have a moment and it becomes one of the tipping points, after everything that's happened to them both and how pivotal Claire's existence is.

The thing with Heroes is they're often time traveling relative to themselves so nothings ever the same as it was minutes ago. But with Doctor Who the main characters are generally traveling together which means they shouldn't be different people from the beginning to the end which is what RTD did in Journey's End. Sigh.

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Date: 2008-09-24 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lost-queen.livejournal.com
"The idea of the Doctor being able to one day retire and yet go on forever..."

oh please god let this be true and happening in 2009 Dr Who - if nothing else than for the sake of my much bruised continued luv for this fandom, which thanks to one RTD has taken a battering this year.

luv the predictions may they come to pass *crossesfingerstoesandeyes*

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Date: 2008-09-24 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid1st.livejournal.com
This is the main prediction as far as I'm concerned. I think it will signal not only a new day in Doctor Who...but a new day in storytelling for the media...if RTD can change the paradigm of this long-standing creation and make it something refreshing and new.

He is so close to the event horizon that I could literally see the future taking beautiful shape...and he pulled away from it at the end of Journey's End. Cowardice? Lack of conviction? Lack of vision? Pressures from above? Or is it just that he's not the writer I thought he was? I hope that it was only because he had to do 4 more episodes as a bridge to Moffat...and he decided to explain the WHY and HOW of his idea to us...rather than because he just can't change things.

Rae

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