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keswindhover 's theories...
Kes has been on since Utopia about Utopia and the sharp-toothed end of the universe dwellers. She wants it to be part of the grand plan and not just a convenient peril and goal for everyone. And I do agree that would be neat. So, when she said the Toclafane don't look very Dalek-y to her...and she thinks they are linked to Utopia. I started speculating...of course.
So, what if...the Toclafane, a Gallifreyan fairytale monster, were indeed real? Just like the show has proven some of OUR monsters to be real. What if...looking into the Vortex at all eternity...the Master saw THEM and went mad? Through his entire life the sound of their drums echoed in his head...and he acted as an agent of chaos. What if what would break the Doctor's hearts isn't that some fragments of his civilization exist but that this other force, the Toclafane, orchestrated the Time War to their own benefit?
What if the Daleks and the Time Lords were manuevered into destroying each other to speed up the end of our universe? Now THAT would be a really cool new villian for our Doctor to fight. A villian bent of destroying the universe...for their own ends..."Come to Utopia."
I must say, Kes, I am suddenly hoping you are onto something here because I am sick to death of resurrecting old school villians. ;-> As, I said at the beginning of the season, the day they bring back the Master is the day to admit the well is dry and they should pack it in. But maybe they decided the well was dry and it's time to drill a new well. Also, then the Master's Paradox Machine is a weapon FOR the Time Lord side as well as against it...and he would be a true double agent and sort of redeemed.
And on the subject of Rose and why she might a) stay in another universe and b) have orchestrated the whole other universe escape hatch in the first place...which is what I think happened...well...if SHE looked into eternity and saw this unstoppable enemy that would use her against the Doctor...she might have been inspired. Maybe the Doctor didn't see the Toclafane because he's telling the truth and he ran away. It would certainly explain some of his status on Gallifrey if he became a Time Lord anyway. And it would even explain some of the reactions he's had to Jack and to Rose when she was Bad Wolf...he was definitely in awe of her there.
Rae
keswindhover 's theories...Kes has been on since Utopia about Utopia and the sharp-toothed end of the universe dwellers. She wants it to be part of the grand plan and not just a convenient peril and goal for everyone. And I do agree that would be neat. So, when she said the Toclafane don't look very Dalek-y to her...and she thinks they are linked to Utopia. I started speculating...of course.
So, what if...the Toclafane, a Gallifreyan fairytale monster, were indeed real? Just like the show has proven some of OUR monsters to be real. What if...looking into the Vortex at all eternity...the Master saw THEM and went mad? Through his entire life the sound of their drums echoed in his head...and he acted as an agent of chaos. What if what would break the Doctor's hearts isn't that some fragments of his civilization exist but that this other force, the Toclafane, orchestrated the Time War to their own benefit?
What if the Daleks and the Time Lords were manuevered into destroying each other to speed up the end of our universe? Now THAT would be a really cool new villian for our Doctor to fight. A villian bent of destroying the universe...for their own ends..."Come to Utopia."
I must say, Kes, I am suddenly hoping you are onto something here because I am sick to death of resurrecting old school villians. ;-> As, I said at the beginning of the season, the day they bring back the Master is the day to admit the well is dry and they should pack it in. But maybe they decided the well was dry and it's time to drill a new well. Also, then the Master's Paradox Machine is a weapon FOR the Time Lord side as well as against it...and he would be a true double agent and sort of redeemed.
And on the subject of Rose and why she might a) stay in another universe and b) have orchestrated the whole other universe escape hatch in the first place...which is what I think happened...well...if SHE looked into eternity and saw this unstoppable enemy that would use her against the Doctor...she might have been inspired. Maybe the Doctor didn't see the Toclafane because he's telling the truth and he ran away. It would certainly explain some of his status on Gallifrey if he became a Time Lord anyway. And it would even explain some of the reactions he's had to Jack and to Rose when she was Bad Wolf...he was definitely in awe of her there.
Rae