I'm not sure about RTD. I have for the most part had a good sense of what he intended. But he does like the sudden emotional shock, so it is possible he isn't telling us the truth. I mean, John Barrowman could be right about the plans for Rose. And RTD could be offering an explanation with his denial in the confidential.
Certainly a season where Rose slowly dies would have served CE well and would have created a storyline that solved a lot of the problems that we currently face with "The Doctor in Love." The main issues is that the Doctor in love is a one-off idea. And they seem determined to make it his default position. As we can see in Moff's work, epic love isn't something sustainable for a long time. It isn't sustainable in real life, for the most part. An audience easily understands that your beloved is lost to you, but they don't easily understand replacing her immediately. Love is a fluctuating and often fading thing. Though, I must say that I love those I've lost, still, in my heart, and I feel the Doctor could do the same and still go on with his show. But if Doctor Who is really a children's show, if that is where they are aiming it, then children don't feel that way. Children expect constancy.
I do think there is an obvious attempt to recreate the love story in New Who. RTD's hope for Penny was interesting. I happen to believe that Penny would have suffered the same fate that Donna suffered had she been added to the story. This might well have given RTD an opportunity to act out the tragic love story with companion death that Barrowman suggested he wanted to do with Rose. And, then, there is the unexplained anger that CE has for the mechanics of the show. Perhaps he wanted Rose to die and the PTB changed their minds earlier. Perhaps his continued involvement was based on his doing that story in S2, but Rose became a more central figure, the way into the show. I think she did that early on in S1, rather than simply in S2 by default.
I also question Alan suggesting that David was to do a lighter Doctor, because all the way through S2, there are very dark suggestions around Ten. Ten strikes me as a Doctor you really shouldn't cross. And it was almost as if Rose not seeing that in him was what made her special. In other words, I believe Martha was more of the everywoman than other companions. If only she hadn't had that crush, she would have seen what Donna immediately sees...that Ten needed someone to stop him. To me, Ten's happiness comes from what happens in Parting of the Ways. It is a natural progression of The Doctor In Love...an infatuation stage...allowing himself to feel what he feels...without facing the consequences of Rose's mortality. There is the pall that hangs over that happiness, given full voice in Tooth & Claw and School Reunion, that a price must be paid in the end.
I decided to skip your spoiler post, because I'm not sure what is in the public domain. And I hate to be spoiled.
Do you really think we might bring the show to a close? I do agree that it is time. And it seems to me to be headed that way. But, it is also very popular and a moneymaker for the BBC. And there is lots of talk about a S8, casting and writers and such. I truly like this Doctor and Clara, now. I could tolerate a couple of seasons with that grandfatherly dynamic again. But Clara is showing signs of being nothing more than a puzzle in Journey to the Center...and that worries me for her longevity.
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Date: 2013-05-03 03:23 pm (UTC)Certainly a season where Rose slowly dies would have served CE well and would have created a storyline that solved a lot of the problems that we currently face with "The Doctor in Love." The main issues is that the Doctor in love is a one-off idea. And they seem determined to make it his default position. As we can see in Moff's work, epic love isn't something sustainable for a long time. It isn't sustainable in real life, for the most part. An audience easily understands that your beloved is lost to you, but they don't easily understand replacing her immediately. Love is a fluctuating and often fading thing. Though, I must say that I love those I've lost, still, in my heart, and I feel the Doctor could do the same and still go on with his show. But if Doctor Who is really a children's show, if that is where they are aiming it, then children don't feel that way. Children expect constancy.
I do think there is an obvious attempt to recreate the love story in New Who. RTD's hope for Penny was interesting. I happen to believe that Penny would have suffered the same fate that Donna suffered had she been added to the story. This might well have given RTD an opportunity to act out the tragic love story with companion death that Barrowman suggested he wanted to do with Rose. And, then, there is the unexplained anger that CE has for the mechanics of the show. Perhaps he wanted Rose to die and the PTB changed their minds earlier. Perhaps his continued involvement was based on his doing that story in S2, but Rose became a more central figure, the way into the show. I think she did that early on in S1, rather than simply in S2 by default.
I also question Alan suggesting that David was to do a lighter Doctor, because all the way through S2, there are very dark suggestions around Ten. Ten strikes me as a Doctor you really shouldn't cross. And it was almost as if Rose not seeing that in him was what made her special. In other words, I believe Martha was more of the everywoman than other companions. If only she hadn't had that crush, she would have seen what Donna immediately sees...that Ten needed someone to stop him. To me, Ten's happiness comes from what happens in Parting of the Ways. It is a natural progression of The Doctor In Love...an infatuation stage...allowing himself to feel what he feels...without facing the consequences of Rose's mortality. There is the pall that hangs over that happiness, given full voice in Tooth & Claw and School Reunion, that a price must be paid in the end.
I decided to skip your spoiler post, because I'm not sure what is in the public domain. And I hate to be spoiled.
Do you really think we might bring the show to a close? I do agree that it is time. And it seems to me to be headed that way. But, it is also very popular and a moneymaker for the BBC. And there is lots of talk about a S8, casting and writers and such. I truly like this Doctor and Clara, now. I could tolerate a couple of seasons with that grandfatherly dynamic again. But Clara is showing signs of being nothing more than a puzzle in Journey to the Center...and that worries me for her longevity.