Here is a questions for you all...DW and DONNA. S4 Speculation

[rabid1st]

Does anyone know how old Donna is? I mean...is she 45? I think she could be 45...even if CT is not. Has it been mentioned at all?



Because I will tell you something interesting about the universe revolving around Donna Noble...or her being connected somehow to the Doctor...the show itself is 45 years old this June. And if Donna was born in London...

Yes...I know it first aired in November...but the universe of Doctor Who began in June 1963...when An Unearthly Child was originally commissioned. So if the Whoverse is being reformed...fitting to have it happen around someone born maybe on the very day the Doctor first came to Earth. Since he and Susan had been there a little while when the episode begins. Susan was a new student...but her teachers had taken an interest in her.

Talk about a crack!theory...this one is meta!crack. :big grin:

Of course, it would be far too much meta!crack if Donna survives everything and all there was to the portents and things was this sort of connection...that Wilf was the copper who checked the gate of I.M. Foreman's Junk Yard...and he remembers it clearly because that was the very night little Donna was born...heavy fog and all. Sorry...that is so bad of me. How do I think of these things, anyway?

Rae
chuckling to myself as I imagine the Dalek scene from Gone With the Wind..."Frankly, my dear, I don't--" EX-TER-MI-NATE! *Zzzzzank

Comments

[totemo-kawaii.livejournal.com]

I really don't know, I know that CT has just recently turned 40, but I don't think that they have ever said how old she is.


and you think of these things because you're bloody brilliant

[nic]

I love the theory! However, I always got the impression that they were trying to make Donna younger on the show than the actress's age, rather than older. e.g. "Plucky young girl".

Also, if she's 45, her mother would be ~65, and Wilf ~85 at the youngest? It's her mother in particular I don't think looks old enough. I'd actually only guess about 10 years between Donna and her mother, but maybe we're not supposed to notice that. ;)

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Well...seriously...I doubt this theory can hold any water at all. People would rise up and hurl tomatoes at the screen I think...after all this portenting. Though...of course...Rose was portented to die in S2 and that was a trick death.

I really think the universe is going to reform around Donna...somehow...like the Earth formed around the Racnoss ship in The Runaway Bride. It would actually explain why our universe is so screwed up...in some ways.

I went to David Tennnat dot com just now and saw that I was right about the TARDIS being in serious peril...as the trailer showed as well. She could well be the most faithful companion...but if Donna takes her place...or Rose's place...or even the Doctor's place...I think she get elevated by that to the role of most faithful.

Rae
thinking the plucky young girl line was ironic...rather than leading...but who knows.

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

OH...and I'm glad to see you popped over.

This isn't the theory I was talking about though...I was talking about the one a few posts back...the one about the HAND. How the Doctor will funnel his regenerative energy into the hand...and make another Doctor.

I hope you saw that one, too.

Rae

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

Though...of course...Rose was portented to die in S2 and that was a trick death.

Ah, but there’s more ways of dying than just the physical.

[nic]

Oh yes, reading my way backwards through your entries. :) In between (ahem) working....

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Well...yes...I know that. She died as she said...because her heart was ripped out...her reason to live was in another universe. It is a very poignant use of the idea...

But that very thing is what I'm talking about here...Rose wasn't simply killed by a Dalek as many had supposed she would be.

And Donna's loss...might not be DEATH in the traditional sense either...but something else. I feel she is to be transformed in some way...losing her physical self perhaps by becoming something more...maybe the center of her own universe...or something like the TARDIS which can more-or-less create the universe around itself. Time Lady...? I don't know. But something that has a memory of Donna as she was...so that in a way she lives on.

Rae

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Ah...well...just so I'm keeping you busy at work.

:grin:

Rae

[sensiblecat.livejournal.com]

If you're right about the TARDIS, it would help explain that strange little conversation in TSP, which seemed to come from nowhere at the time; the one that establishes that Rose loves him with or without the TARDIS.

And if we get the rumoured two-Doctors scenario, presumably one of them would lose the TARDIS anyway. A season without the TARDIS, or at least without the means to get off Earth, isn't unprecedented, of course.

[wickedgillie.livejournal.com]

Yes, I am on a very tight deadline for work, which is of course why I am here reading yet another well-thought crack theory from you. Can't we just skip to Saturday?

(of course, I both want to know and don't want to know what happens, just like reading a good book that you want to rush through and also have never end)

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Yeah...but then...Rose seems to be popping around time and space sans TARDIS. And for that matter...Jack does it all the time...and now Martha, too.

And the TARDIS has been apparently lost before. She's getting rather long in the tooth (so to speak...I don't think she HAS teeth, really...:grin: ) and could use a good influx of something new and exciting to make her doors pop open to the finger snap...or whatever. God, Moffat is such a berk. Sorry!

Rae

[tsukikage85.livejournal.com]

Though...of course...Rose was portented to die in S2 and that was a trick death.
Which, even through my giddy shippery this last episode, still pisses me off.

[princessblue791.livejournal.com]

I think its like these 20-somethings that play high schoolers. I think we're supposed to be younger than CT really is.

[rabid1st.livejournal.com]

Yeah...I was watching again and no way is she 45 anyway. It was just a thought. I have heard the Donna is the Doctor's daughter theory before...maybe from you...not sure. I know that it's not my theory as I go with the she wasn't pregnant stand...as you know. But I don't have a problem with Donna being their daughter...certainly the Doctor has had interactions with children a lot this season.

I was thinking that if he goes back to the beach...then he and Rose could already have children when she runs into Donna. And when he denies any family...I was thinking when Rose gets taken back to her time/universe...we might see that she's a mom and think..."Oh, she was already pregnant." This would get Jackie into things, too. And if the children don't look like Mickey...then there is a good chance they belong to the Doctor.

I feel that we will get a parting...before we get our full reunion. I just hope, given DT pointing out that there will be no happy endings...at least when we still have a cliffhanger to get through...that we will have this gutwrenching tease that is solved before the end of this episode.

I figure all the players will be captured by the Daleks and transported to Davros' ship...for gloating confrontation...and front row seat on the end of everything. So Martha's key will come into play...and maybe the Indigo thingee...I can see the Doctor using it to jump into the TARDIS as she falls.

Rae

[bananasandroses.livejournal.com]

But something that has a memory of Donna as she was...so that in a way she lives on.

The Doctor will remember her, and now probably Jack, so in a way she’ll never die. (Assuming, of course, that that’s what happens. I’ve no more clue of what’s to come on Saturday than anyone else.)